Executive Summary
In-Q-Tel,has nearly two decades of diverse experience in strategic
business development and product design.
Prior to joining Hasbro, Louie served as Chief Executive
at a number of corporations, including Nexa Corporation,
Sphere, Spectrum HoloByte, and MicroProse, which was
sold to Hasbro in 1998. During the course of his
Louie has served on the board of directors of several corporations and groups, including Wizards of the Coast, Total Entertainment Network, Direct Language, and FASA Interactive. He is on the board of the nonprofit venture fund NewSchools.org.
A nationally recognized leader and speaker in the fields of entertainment software, educational software, and translation and media services, Louie has established himself as an expert on the critical relationship between technology innovation and national security. Louie completed the Advanced Management Program/International Seniors Management Program at Harvard Business School, and he received his bachelor of science degree in business administration from San Francisco State University.
Journal
of Homeland Security: How did you come to
Louie: It was a total accident. I had just sold my
computer gaming company, Microprose, to Hasbro, where I
became the Chief Creative Officer for Hasbro Interactive.
And I was participating in this promotion for a magazine
publication: Who was the best top gun pilot
in the big-business world? We had all these former fighter
pilots, who are all now corporate executives, to go up in
The American I ended up dogfighting was Randy Jane from Heidrick & Struggles.
And after our session, he said he had this really interesting
company he was recruiting for, saying it was a very unique and unusual opportunity.
After I read the white paper, it was obvious that it was
a project that Dr. Ruth David and others were considering
developing for the CIA. It was clear that the CIA was attempting
to try to fill a gapa gap in the IT space. How do
you attract the providers of IT and the creators of IT to
the government, a sector that young companies have historicallyat
least over the last
The paper indicated that
The only question I had was whether or not the CIA was really
committed to this. But after speaking to the Board of Trustees,
to Paul Kaminsky, Norm Augustine, Bill Perry, really great
people, I realized that this was not just a checkbox that
someone wanted to fill.
Journal of Homeland Security: What, in your opinion,
have been the major success stories for
Louie: While I probably should not get into the tactical
areas where weve been successful, we have some very
good metrics for measuring success. We have
As for the impact of 9/11we were originally designed to be a five-year experiment. There were lots of questions, such as Will this new model work? Can you go out and touch these companies and convince users in the agency to use this stuff? Can you transform the culture enough so that it aligns with the business process of intelligence? These questions were all valid before 9/11.
I dont believe our standard operating procedures have changed much as a result of 9/11. Before 9/11, there were a number of technologies the CIA wanted us to take a look at. This showed a lot of vision, a lot of good thinking from the very beginning. The only difference today is that instead of waiting for solutions two years in the future or the long term, the CIA needs solutions for the short term: in other words, give us what you have right now.
Journal of Homeland Security: With your success
thus far, there appears to be a number of government
agencies that are considering development of their
own
Louie: First,
Change is hard and very painful. And technology is one of the most painful kinds of change. Frequently, theres a point in time where you have to slow down what youre doing and become unproductive for a while to adapt to these new cutting-edge technologies. That kind of patience requires leadership. Having George behind it and others at the senior levels of the CIA, all the way down to the rank and file, was one of the keys behind our survival and successes. Without the support of the person running the organization, it would never fly.
The second thing the CIA did well is they realized that it
was not enough to have this third-party group out there
in all the technology sectors. They also needed a counterpart
group inside the agency. And so what Directorate of Science & Technology
decided to do is they set up just such a group. They put
The third thing they did was design
For example, one of our investments, Graviton (a wireless
sensor network company), had IT elements in it, but it didnt
appear to be a natural investment for
Finally, the agency was also very smart in that it recognized
the need for procurement personnel. They picked a couple
of their top procurement folks to work with
Were designed to be a bit unorthodox, and the leadership
seems pleased. George Tenet said, Look! Im surrounded
by people in government. Im surrounded by great intelligence
people. I dont need another organization filled with
the same stuff. I need an organization dedicated to a new
way of thinking. And well combine
Journal of Homeland Security: Do you think it helped having an aggressive hands-on DCI [Director of Central Intelligence]?
Louie: I think it helped having a DCI who was mission-focused rather than technically focused. He realized that the problem wasnt the technology, but rather the problem was How do you solve the mission? He has a pretty clear set of problems. He has a finite number of experts in all sectors of his agency. Theres a huge, growing demand for intelligence everywhere, and you cant simply add people. Talented analysts take years and years to hone their skills.
So he figured out what he had to do was [to] better leverage what he had. Yes, the agency would bring in new people and train them up, but for the short term, the agency needed to leverage the people already in the system. And one of the most effective tools for leveraging his existing talent is technology. Using technology and ample private expertise allows his analysts to do the things that human beings do really, really well and lets the computers do all the drudge work.
And Director Tenet handled the situation very well. He wasnt the kind of person that would get on his staff and say, Heres the new technology I read about in PC Magazine or I saw demonstrated in some research forum. No, George said, Get the job done, and Im going to measure you by how you affect the mission. And at the end of five years Im going to look back and say, What did you deliver [to] me for the money we provided [to] you that affected the mission? And thats all that counts for himthe mission.
Thats what the DCI is concerned abouthow many lives have you saved, how many bad guys have you caught, how much did you improve the role of intelligence? And those are the right metrics. Not measuring the widgets.
Journal of Homeland Security: Did the private sector
have any misgivings or preconceived notions about
Louie: It was a little bit easier than I thought it was going to be. Early on, many didnt think it was going to work. People felt there was an unbridgeable disconnect between Silicon Valley and the CIA. People imagined a group of West Coasters from places like Berkeley walking into the CIA and telling them what to do. It didnt seem like it was going to work.
But venture capitalists were very interested and curious
from the beginning. We started getting calls immediately
after word got out about
On the flip side, the companies loved us too. Since the VCs
were coming to us, they realized if they could get to us
first, we might be able to introduce them to other venture
capitalists and promote their product. More importantly,
peopleat least the entrepreneursperceived that
the CIA was looking to tackle the really difficult
Journal of Homeland Security: Why is it do you
think that U.S. intelligence agencies, which benefit
so directly from technology, got so far behind the
power curve that a company like
Louie: Well if you talk to Bill Perry and others who
were involved in the glory days of the agency
and technology, they would suggest that the agency wasnt
behind when
Its not that the traditional contractors werent doing great work, but there was a whole level of activity that, until recently, we didnt have access to. Back in 99 at the height of the bubble, what we needed was a new mechanism. We needed to do something above and beyond what were already doing and close the gap. Today people say, Yes, the agency obviously needed to explore the IT community. But in 1999, it wasnt that obvious. The agency has to stay ahead of the curve.
Of course, there was a gap between what we would call basic research and the technology that actually got into the mission and into peoples hands. And theyre just too expensive. Microsoft for example, spends billions of dollars on every upgrade to their operating systems. Thats a lot of money to ask the taxpayer to pay.
And if you were an entrepreneur, and you had a choice between a cost-plus contract for the government or creating a product that has value to the commercial market with hundreds of millions of dollars in market-cap valuation, its obvious which way those entrepreneurs would go. So I think the market has changed. So Bill Perry, Norm Augustine, and all the other board members realized we needed to update our model to something thats more relevant to todays times.
Journal of Homeland Security: Do you believe [that]
Louie: We believe [that]
So as a result of the financial drought, were actually getting more and more venture funds asking us to not just to vet products, but asking us, What are the things are you looking for? Where do we see the government heading towards in terms of technology? So its actually helped us. During the inflationary period of investment in the 1990s, anyone with a dot-com in their company was able to find money. Today, the investment world has rediscovered self-discipline. Today, people are only going to invest in great technology, great management teams, and good solid markets. Thats the old way of investing and quite frankly thats the best way. By investing in solid concepts, you get solid organizations that can stand the test of time. Even more important, by sharing the total costs you will produce a commercial market around that technology. As a result it will be much cheaper than any point solution designed for government, by government, and only for government.
Journal of Homeland Security: So you actually see the downturn as an advantage, harnessing the additional attention and coming out of this situation stronger than before?
Louie: I think
Journal of Homeland Security: Do you see any other models coming along that might replace venture capitalism?
Louie: I think we may see some hybrid models. There will always be venture capital, just like there will always be venture investing. Remember, corporate venture capital is something that is still in the process of maturing. The main reason for that is they cannot decide if they should be investing for strategy or investing for rate of return.
One of the things the private sector might learn from
Journal of Homeland Security: Do you have any idea
how
Louie: Yes. Whether
If you introduce new technology, thats terrific. But
if you just graft it onto an old work process, youre
not really leveraging technology. Youre not really
maximizing the people that youve got. Its important
to look at it as a higher system. At
Journal of Homeland Security: On a bit of tangent, it sounds like what youre saying is investing in strategy is the best long-term path to success. However, it seems like today most people are more interested in immediate returns on their investments. Have you had a hard time convincing people of the need to look not just at short-term interests, but 5, 10, 20 years down the road?
Louie: I call that the total cost solution return. And thats different from a financial plan. A financial planners goal is to make a bet, get in and out, and to maximize that gain. Thats a lot different from corporate investing. In corporate investing, investors ask, What is the real return on the investment for the total organization? And once they adopt this strategy, where their investments fill gaps or move strategy along, then they understand [that] metrics cannot be completed on a quarter-by-quarter basis.
Todays market, in the post-Enron and post-Worldcom era, punishes spiky rates of return. Those companies are demonstrating a failed strategy. It doesnt matter if you have two quarters of great returns if the following quarter you destroy gains from the past two years. I think the American investor is refocusing on the long term and good corporate governance, which requires good strategy and an understanding of consistent rates of return. So Im in total agreement with you. I will say that at the same time, however, you have to make sure that your company makes it to the end, so you have to pay attention to both the long term and the bubbles.
Journal of Homeland Security: Do you think this is a principle that is being taught in business schools today to the young IT managers, the importance of long-term planning?
Louie: Slowly. The problem is that historically the IT discipline has been considered old temple and makes no effort at understanding the business temple. Not enough work has been done in academia to analyze how those two worlds interact. Business people need to understand operations management, operations research, as well as the technology side in order to create maximum leverage.
Now McKinsey & Co. put out a great report on American productivity, and they had some pieces about how technology impacted American productivity. The reality was that most productive sectors did spend a lot on IT, but many of the least productive sectors also spent a lot in IT. The primary difference was how they implement the IT. Wal-Mart is a shining example of how a company, by changing its workflow processes and the supply chain and thinking from end to end can revolutionize its business and beat its competition. IT played a role in this, but it played a role alongside all their business transfers. And we have to do that now in government on the homeland defense side. Today, we are witnessing a nearreal time responsive environment, which is very different than during the Cold War. There is a need to blend these two disciplinesproductivity and technologytogether to come up with a new model.
Journal of Homeland Security: On the international
front, has
Louie:
Some European countries have expressed interest in this model as well. In some respects, European countries have an advantage because they have already been doing a lot of privatization work and are therefore more comfortable with this private-public partnership than the U.S. is. The U.S. has historically tried to separate the public and private sectors. But privatization activities that took place in the 1990s in Europe have resulted in Europes increased openness to these kinds of relationships.
Journal of Homeland Security: Is our educational system producing the right kinds of people to be successful in the environment youve been discussing, and against this international competition? For example, are high schools and colleges producing individuals who are technologically savvy who can contribute to American intelligence efforts?
Louie: I would say the cream of the crop is still the cream of the crop. Ill take Americas cream-of-the-crop students over the competition. But the challenge is not the top 10 or 5 percent, but the rest of the talent pool. We cannot afford what is becoming an increasingly large gap in skill sets among students, so much so that we create a new class in society.
This isnt about a technology gap. Rather, its about our way of thinking, and how we as a society leverage information. We need to make sure that we pull everybody along. Take a look at a country like South Korea, for example. They are totally wired and its having a noticeable effect on their culture when you wire up an entire population with broadband, whether you are rich or youre poor. Some countries are completely rebuilding themselves. China is rewiring its entire metropolitan areas. In their case its actually easier, as they didnt have any infrastructure to protect from the beginning. So we need to develop innovative educational solutions, because our kids are our next line of defense, and we cannot afford to leave them vulnerable.
Journal of Homeland Security: Do you think there are disconnects between the federal and state governments as to how to address this gap or problem?
Louie: In some ways, I think the fact that the United States uses fifty different approaches to education is a strength. The federal government is fairly irrelevant in terms of education funding. Eight or nine percent of the education budget comes from the Federal government. State and local forces drive decision-making.
And because the states are competitive with one another, they are willing to innovate and experiment. Were a competitive society and this plays to our strength. Nevertheless, we need to prioritize the education efforts more than we have, and I think weve seen in the past few years significant steps towards doing so. In the late 80s and early 90s, people were very pessimistic. Everyone thought the U.S. educational system would completely collapse. We realized that we were in big trouble. Were not out of it yet. We have a long ways to go. But the states are really on top of the problem. Ask any governor what his or her top two priorities are and hell say education is one of them.
Journal of Homeland Security: Looking ahead, what do you perceive as some of the major technology breakthroughs as they relate to your business?
Louie: I thing there are some interesting things happening in the fusion of technologies. Short-term, [in the] near future, I think youll see more developments in knowledge management systems, peer-to-peer architectures, and distributed networks. These will allow total connectivityhaving the ability to go out and effectively mine a networks information in a smart, robust kind of way. Take the search engine Google. Five years ago, the concept of Google would have been amazing. Who would have believed in 1995 that we would develop this tool where you can type in any question you want, and youll get all the information all over the world that is relevant to that subject? Thats the kind of state where we are today.
Tomorrow, before you even ask your question, your system, your client, will know who you are. Your e-mail will know who you are, your calendar will tell you what youre interested in, news programs will be tailored to your interests. You will have your own personal network of people accessed by your own electronic profile. Information will be prearranged and presorted, distributed to you in a way that you can comprehend. Work that now may take weeks will only take minutes. And many of these capabilities will be performed not off a computer but off something far more portable, like on your belt. It is going to fundamentally change the way we think of information. It means personal empowerment and network awareness that we have never before leveraged.
As for the long term, there will be lots of interesting things happening. In particular, I see a merging between biosciences, computing sciences, and the physical sciences. And I think as the goals of these different fields begin to intersect, youre going to see some really unbelievable technologies that will change market trends as well.
Journal of Homeland Security: Do you see these changes occurring more rapidly now than in the past?
Louie: I think there will be some critical breaking
points, which will create spurts in innovation. But Im
not of the belief that things are going to change so rapidly
and so fast that in the next 10 years, youre going
to create what once took
Were living in interesting times. What does it mean
when
Journal of Homeland Security: Arent there certain perils involved with this? For example, a small non-state actor turning around and inflicting significant damage on a large nation-state like the U.S.?
Louie: There are dangers. Its always a race between the good guys and the bad guys. Even if you go back to an era where bow and arrows and crossbows were the dominant form of warfare, you see different groups taking advantage of the gaps that exist between groups. But all of this underlines the importance of intelligence. Its our job to identify gaps in technology and react to the gaps before they go off and kill us. So I think if anything, the intelligence services, the defense establishment, and government are focused on getting technology savvy now. Because those gaps can be exploited, and if they can be exploited in the wrong kinds of ways, it could be a disaster.